{"id":110,"date":"2008-10-26T09:22:00","date_gmt":"2008-10-25T22:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/?p=110"},"modified":"2008-11-05T20:56:21","modified_gmt":"2008-11-05T09:56:21","slug":"disciplining-children","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/?p=110","title":{"rendered":"disciplining children"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Everyone has something to say about the best way to discipline children, even people without children! In Christian circles it is common to emphasize the &#8220;biblical&#8221; approach to discipline, an approach which inevitably (and not inappropriately) turns to advice from the book of Proverbs. Here are a few of the verses in Proverbs to which people turn when considering how the Bible advises we discipline our children:<\/p>\n<p>A wise son accepts his father\u02bcs discipline,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke. (13:1)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>He who spares his rod hates his son,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">But he who loves him disciplines him diligently. (13:24)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Discipline your son while there is hope,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">And do not desire his death. (19:18)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child;<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">The rod of discipline will remove it far from him. (22:15)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Do not hold back discipline from the child,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">Although you beat him with the rod, he will not die.<\/span><br \/>\nYou shall beat him with the rod,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">And deliver his soul from Sheol. (23:13\u201314)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The rod of reproof gives wisdom,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">But a child who gets his own way brings shame to his mother. (29:15)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>On the basis of these proverbs it is common to assert that the biblical teaching not only endorses some form of corporal punishment in pedagogy, but actually mandates it. Certainly that would seem to be the way Sirach understands the advice, because he clearly felt that Proverbs didn&#8217;t go anywhere near far enough! Just listen to the advice Sirach offers in chapter 30:<\/p>\n<p>He who loves his son will whip him often,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">so that he may rejoice at the way he turns out.<\/span><br \/>\nHe who disciplines his son will profit by him,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and will boast of him among acquaintances.<\/span><br \/>\nHe who teaches his son will make his enemies envious,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and will glory in him among his friends.<\/span><br \/>\nWhen the father dies he will not seem to be dead,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">for he has left behind him one like himself,<\/span><br \/>\nwhom in his life he looked upon with joy<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and at death, without grief.<\/span><br \/>\nHe has left behind him an avenger against his enemies,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and one to repay the kindness of his friends.<\/span><br \/>\nWhoever spoils his son will bind up his wounds,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and will suffer heartache at every cry.<\/span><br \/>\nAn unbroken horse turns out stubborn,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and an unchecked son turns out headstrong.<\/span><br \/>\nPamper a child, and he will terrorize you;<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">play with him, and he will grieve you.<\/span><br \/>\nDo not laugh with him, or you will have sorrow with him,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and in the end you will gnash your teeth.<\/span><br \/>\nGive him no freedom in his youth,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and do not ignore his errors.<\/span><br \/>\nBow down his neck in his youth,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and beat his sides while he is young,<\/span><br \/>\nor else he will become stubborn and disobey you,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">and you will have sorrow of soul from him.<\/span><br \/>\nDiscipline your son and make his yoke heavy,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">so that you may not be offended by his shamelessness.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Did you ever wonder why Sirach&#8217;s wisdom was translated by his grandson and not his son? I think the answer lies in the words above! I also think the above passage is sufficient to prove the error of canonising the apocryphal books!<\/p>\n<p>But seriously, what are we to make of the advice in Proverbs? For many, it would seem, these aphorisms form the basis for promoting corporal punishment (you could even by a &#8220;rod&#8221; for a while in the US). But let me outline the reasons I think that such a conclusion is premature.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<p><strong>Proverbs is not a book of rules<\/strong>. Now although just about everyone agrees on this point, for many it ultimately has little impact on the reading of Proverbs!<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><strong>Proverbs require wisdom to be correctly understood and applied<\/strong>. They are brief snippets of advice not comprehensive tomes encompassing all there is to say on a particular topic. They rely on the wisdom of the person using them to be able to use them correctly and they can be misused by fools (see Prov 26:7, 9). So we should not understand a single proverb on the topic of disciplining children to provide us with all there is to know on the topic!<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>If you look at the proverbs relating to disciplining children you\u2019ll note that just about the only method of discipline mentioned is the use of \u201cthe rod.\u201d Very few people today would suggest that the rod or even corporal punishment should be the only means of discipline we use on our children. So are they inconsistent and unbiblical?<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p>When Proverbs does talk about the rod, look closely at what the proverbs actually say. For example, in Prov 29:15:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The rod of reproof gives wisdom,<br \/>\n<span style=\"margin-left: 4em;\">But a child who gets his own way brings shame to his mother.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As is typical, the proverb has two opposing parts\u2014the first tells us that \u201cthe rod of reproof gives wisdom.\u201d What does the opposing half of the proverb say? Does it say \u201cbut a child who is only sent to his room brings shame to his mother\u201d? \u201cBut a child who is grounded brings shame to his mother\u201d? \u201cBut a child who\u2019s pocket money is taken away brings shame to his mother\u201d? Does it contrast \u201cthe rod\u201d with any other form of discipline in order to tell us that the rod is the only means of discipline that works? No it doesn\u2019t! It contrasts \u201cthe rod\u201d with not disciplining at all! It contrasts \u201cthe rod\u201d with allowing the child to get away with anything without any consequences.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Here, then, is the hermeneutical crux of the matter. Proverbs uses \u201cthe rod\u201d as a convenient way to refer to discipline in general, in contrast to not disciplining. Now there&#8217;s no doubt that, in the ancient world, corporal punishment was pretty widely employed. But correctly understood, I do not think Proverbs can be interpreted as mandating corporal punishment as normative. On the other hand, Proverbs can&#8217;t be used to argue that corporal punishment is <em>never<\/em> appropriate. Proverbs affirms discipline over against not disciplining, it should not be interpreted as providing rules about the appropriate means of discipline, and to treat it as such is to make foolish use of biblical wisdom!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Everyone has something to say about the best way to discipline children, even people without children! In Christian circles it is common to emphasize the &#8220;biblical&#8221; approach to discipline, an approach which inevitably (and not inappropriately) turns to advice from the book of Proverbs. 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