{"id":558,"date":"2022-09-23T12:33:46","date_gmt":"2022-09-23T02:33:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cloud.shields-online.net\/wordpress\/?p=558"},"modified":"2022-09-23T14:43:57","modified_gmt":"2022-09-23T04:43:57","slug":"i-know-that-my-redeemer-lives-what-is-jobs-hope","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/?p=558","title":{"rendered":"\u201ci know that my redeemer lives\u201d \u2014\u00a0what is Job\u2019s hope?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Job 19:25\u201327 contains what are perhaps the most famous words of Job. They are included in Handel\u2019s Messiah and found in other Christian music as well. For many, these words by Job are understood as an indication that Job\u2019s faith continues despite all that has happened to him: Job\u2019s redeemer is God and Job, fundamentally, maintains a profound faith in God. For some these verses are understood even to reflect Job\u2019s hope in life after death.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet this common understanding of these verses is almost certainly wrong. Let me explain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First, it\u2019s worth noting that just because an interpretation or reading of a text makes for some profound message, or great sermon fodder, or supports one\u2019s theological position, does not make it right. I\u2019ve heard that sort of argument for the <em><a href=\"\\&quot;https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Johannine_Comma\\&quot;\">Comma Johanneum<\/a><\/em> \u2014 it must be true because it supports the doctrine of the Trinity. Forget the overwhelming textual evidence against it, the dubious circumstances surrounding its authenticity, and so forth. If it sounds good then that\u2019s enough for some people, and removing it is tantamount to heresy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That seems to be the thinking behind the argument in some of the commentaries that I\u2019ve seen which then go on to claim that any other interpretation is clearly inferior. Yet this is not a sound exegetical argument. Close inspection reveals problems with this view and the alternative view, espoused below, is free from these difficulties.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The most apparent difficulty is recognised by some proponents of the traditional view (if I may call it this). John Hartley, for example, notes that:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>This magnificent verse then means that Job is beseeching the God in whom he has faith to help him against the God who is punishing him.<\/p><cite>J. E. Hartley, <em>Job<\/em>, 295.<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The point is, nothing in the context prepares us to identify Job\u2019s redeemer as God, and everything in the context urges us not to make this identification.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are other problems with the traditional view. For one, we know that Job does not need a redeemer or mediator to resolve his problems, because his problem is not that he needs someone to plead his case to God. We know that from the prologue where God recognised Job as upright and blameless! We know it because Job\u2019s plight is remedied in the end without any mediator or redeemer appearing!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So how do we best make sense of this passage? Let me make a few observations:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"has-regular-font-size wp-block-list\"><li>The \u2018redeemer\u2019 (\u05d2\u05d0\u05dc) was a defined role in ancient Israel (see Num 35:12, 19\u201327; Lev 25:25\u201334), sometimes called the \u2018kinsman-redeemer\u2019. They sought justice when a family member was murdered, they ensured that widows within the family were cared for, they redeemed property sold through economic circumstances. They were real people who were members of the extended family. Obviously the most famous example is Boaz in the story of Ruth (see Ruth 2:20).<sup>1<\/sup><\/li><li>Job has, for some time by this point, made it clear that he does not expect to live for long. He feels his death is imminent (e.g. Job 7:21). He will leave a widow, he will leave an estate which needs to be apportioned as inheritance within his broader family. In short, he expects to need the services of his kinsman-redeemer in the near future!<\/li><li>In Job 19:25, when Job refers to a time that is \u201cin the end\u201d (\u05d0\u05d7\u05e8\u05d5\u05df), this redeemer will stand on dust (\u05e2\u05e4\u05e8). \u2018Dust\u2019 is used in reference to death in, for example, Gen 3:19; Job 7:21. It is likely a reference to Job\u2019s death, possibly even his own grave. Job ties the arrival of this redeemer with his demise, precisely what we\u2019d expect of a \u2018kinsman-redeemer\u2019.<\/li><li>The opening of verse 26 parallels the close of verse 25, again referring to Job\u2019s death. The mistake in many translations is tying this clause with what follows rather than that which precedes it. In the first three lines (Job 19:25\u201326a), Job has poetically stated that his death is coming, it is certain, and he has made arrangements (he is confident that his kinsman-redeemer is ready).<\/li><li>This portion, v. 26a, is difficult no matter which view is adopted, and some commentators consider it to be corrupt (which it may be). The problems, in particular, are that the singular \u2018skin\u2019 (\u05e2\u05d5\u05e8) seems to be the subject of the plural <em>piel<\/em> verb, and whether the <em>piel<\/em> verb can have a passive meaning, as would seem to be necessary. The LXX offers no help in understanding the Hebrew.<\/li><li>The remainder of verse 26 and first two-thirds of 27 now express Job\u2019s wishes for before he dies \u2014\u00a0before his skin is gone, while still in his flesh. Furthermore, the <em>yiqtol<\/em> verbs should be read modally \u2014\u00a0unlike the way most English translations render them. \u201cBut in my flesh I <em>want<\/em> to see God.\u201d That this is so is made explicit by the final clause (see below). He emphasises this by asserting that he wants to see God with his own eyes and not leave this encounter to another (after he has died).<\/li><li>The final clause makes it clear that Job is desperate for this to happen, but that it is by no means a certainty. The verb here, \u05db\u05dc\u05d4, usually means \u201cto stop, come to an end,\u201d but is used in the sense of \u201cyearning, longing\u201d in places such as 2Sam 13:39; Ps 84:3[2]; 119:81. Job has elsewhere expressed a desire to confront God (see, for example, Job 13:1\u201312).<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>This leads to the following translation of this passage:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-left is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>I know that my kinsman-redeemer lives,<br>and after (me) he will stand on the dust<br>after they have stripped this \u2014 my skin<\/p><p>Yet from my flesh I want to see God,<br>I want to see him for myself,<br>and my eyes see, not a stranger\u2019s! My innards yearn within me.<\/p><cite>Job 19:25\u201327<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>So in the end, Job is reiterating his expectation that his death is nearing. He is ready for it, indeed he has in places been longing for it. But before that happens, before the end comes, he wants the opportunity to meet with God so that he might register his complaint and, perhaps, get some sort of explanation for what has happened to him. And while he doesn\u2019t know it at this point in the story, he is going to get his wish!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For Christian readers this might be somewhat disappointing. Desperate to find deeper meaning in the Old Testament, we can forget that Job\u2019s original readers knew nothing of Jesus, knew little to nothing of the nature of post-mortem existence, and had no inkling of a final judgment or eternal life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>See, for example, Matthew J. Suriano, \u201cDeath, Disinheritance, and Job\u2019s Kinsman-Redeemer.\u201d <em>JBL<\/em> 129.1 (2010): 49\u201366.<\/li><\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Job 19:25\u201327 contains what are perhaps the most famous words of Job. They are included in Handel\u2019s Messiah and found in other Christian music as well. For many, these words by Job are understood as an indication that Job\u2019s faith continues despite all that has happened to him: Job\u2019s redeemer is God and Job, fundamentally,&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,17,5,39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-558","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bible","category-job","category-old-testament","category-wisdom-literature"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/558","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=558"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/558\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":565,"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/558\/revisions\/565"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=558"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=558"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blog.shields-online.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=558"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}